Germany, Ukraine agree more talks needed before four-way summit

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko agreed more talks were needed before a "Normandy format" summit on the Ukraine conflict could be held, the German government said. The Kremlin had said on Thursday the leaders of France, Germany, Russia and Ukraine might meet on Oct. 19 if preliminary conferences of experts produced results . Merkel and Poroshenko spoke by telephone on Thursday and agreed that everything should be done to stabilise the ceasefire agreed 18 m