What Trudeau’s podcast appearances say about the Liberals’ next ballot box question

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau knows Canadians aren’t listening. 
He knows his defence against Conservative attacks over his signature climate policy isn’t working, at least not yet. 
But he plans to keep trying. And while he’s at it, his office is trying something new to get the Liberal government’s message out. 
Trudeau recently appeared on four podcasts as he travels the country talking up the Liberals’ latest budget, which he’s